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Ferrari on Twitter: "Fernando is ready to go for his run on soft tyres."

BBC F1 pit-lane reporter Ted Kravitz: "Ferrari have swapped the wings on Felipe Massa's car - the new one has a hole where the other didn't. They've also made changes to the suspension and the front brake drums."

1051: With the Red Bulls, Ferraris and Renaults in the pits, Jenson Button takes the opportunity to go out a touch earlier, therefore avoiding traffic, to stick in a couple of flying laps. The British is out on a five-lap run on the super-softs in his McLaren.

Mercedes GP on Twitter: "A couple of practice pit stops and both cars are back in the garage... Nico currently P9 and Michael P12."

Caz Tricks Aberystwyth via text: "Hmmmm, I see Sebastian Vettel has a slight wing problem (it was being scrubbed down in the pits moments ago - Ed)... Surely Red Bull wouldn't dare do the ol' switcharoo again - would they???"

1047: Renault's Robert Kubica continues to impress, pushing Jenson Button out of the top four to go P4 with a 1:21.690 despite a bit of traffic during that flying lap.

BBC Radio 5 live F1 analyst Anthony Davidson: "In general F1 has become a little bit too easy for the drivers when cars run off the circuit now - there's too much asphalt and not enough gravel traps. You should be punished if you make a mistake. Nobody wants to see a driver injured, but too many are getting away with driving errors."

Force India on Twitter: "We have picked up a driveshaft problem with Tonio's car so he will sit out the rest of the session while it is fixed so as not to risk any damage to the gearbox and hence grid penalty."

1044: Fastest time of the weekend from Mark Webber, the Red Bull positively flying around the Hungaroring in a 1:19.940.

1042: Mark Webber threatens to go top of the timings but the Australia loses time in the final sector to stay second fastest behind Red Bull team-mate Sebastian Vettel, who has a 1:20.261. Felipe Massa is complaining of problems with his rear stability in his Ferrari, he is eighth fastest, with Robert Kubica now splitting McLaren pair Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton in his Renault with a 1:21.818.

dansimmonds7 on Twitter: "Red Bulls looking ominous for the rest of the field - Jenson and Lewis will be lucky to get 7th and 8th on this form."

BBC Sport's Sarah Holt on Twitter: "Bruno Senna's Hispania faces backwards after a glide and spin."

Bobert on 606: "Red Bull are strong again - but they should have had it wrapped up by now with the best car on the grid. Inexperience and a lack of leadership has thwarted their campaign. If Ferrari, who have been back-seated up until now (except for Bahrain and last week) can put the pressure on, the experienced Alonso and Team can pinch the title."

Radio 5 live F1 commentator David Croft: "Mark Webber has been out-qualified by his team-mate in four straight races since Turkey, other than when Vettel had the grid penalty in Canada. Vettel has the momentum in that respect, and Webber may need to rethink his approach to qualifying." Radio 5 live F1 analyst Anthony Davidson in reply: "Possibly, but when it comes to the races Webber is older, wiser and possibly a little bit tougher. Vettel still gets a little bit flustered every now and then."

1037: McLaren's problems are clearly in the middle - and fastest of the Hungaroring's circuit - sector, here, Jenson Button losing almost a second on the leading Red Bulls through that as he goes fourth fastest with a 1:21.781. Everything says this is the Red Bulls to lose in qualifying.

1034: Fernando Alonso goes third fastest with a 1:21.708. Red Bulls leading the Ferraris, who lead the McLarens? I don't suppose anyone saw that coming.

1033: With less than half an hour to go in the session, Sebastian Vettel tops the time charts with a 1:20.261, nearly a second ahead of team-mate Mark Webber, who is second fastest. Next up come the McLarens of Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button, with Ferrari pair Felipe Massa and Fernando Alonso just inside the top 10. The red cars are getting faster, though...

Ferrari on Twitter: "Fernando just went out and Felipe is going out as well, both on hard tyres."

Force India on Twitter: "'Lots of oversteer', reports Adrian Sutil, they will look at making some changes for the next run."

1028: As Anthony Davidson infers, below, Red Bull's front wing has raised more than a few eyebrows in the pits of late, and McLaren have broken cover in seeking clarification from Formula 1's governing body on its legality. McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh has said it is "difficult for us to imagine" how some cars' wings could be legal. Controversy. Michael Schumacher, meanwhile, has a problem with his Mercedes, this time his rear wing apparently not working properly according to the team radio. "It's stable but not great," says his engineer.

BBC Radio 5 live F1 analyst Anthony Davidson: "It's been a stroke of genius on Red Bull's part to get the wing through the safety checks and regulations and out on to the track. But I've heard rumours about all sorts of things going on, including flexible floors…"

Rik, Falkirk via text: "There should definitely be no team orders, we want to see all the drivers able to race against each other. How entertaining would it have been to see the faster Alonso trying to pass Massa? Would have made for a fantastic last few laps."

1024: Mark Webber gets round in 1:23.149 to go top of the charts with his first proper run - only to then be relegated back into second spot when Nico Hulkenberg posts a 1:22.686. The track rubbering in nicely now and we will see these times plummet in the next half hour or so, especially with Sebastian Vettel and both McLarens now out.

Mercedes GP on Twitter: "Michael & Nico now heading out for their first proper runs of the day..."

1021: Red Bull's Mark Webber flies out of the pits and it looks like he will be the first of the championship front-runners to set a flying lap. Nico Hulkenberg is currently the fastest man on the track with a 1:24.664 in his Williams.

Desolation_row on 606: "This weekend looks like being damage limitation for Mclaren again. Never-mind Ferrari and Red Bull, it looked like they were slower than the Renaults yesterday. The three-week break can't come soon enough for them."

1015: Virgin's Lucas di Grassi is the first man to set a full lap time 15 minutes into the session and it's a rather laboured 1:29.866 - understandable given track conditions.

Lotus technical chief Mike Gascoyne on Twitter: "Heikki going out early to make up for the lost laps yesterday. Practice launch to start the run."

f1fanatic_co_uk on Twitter: "Track silent 11 minutes in, drivers not keen to run on the slippery track. The state of the track could mean slower lap times to begin with. Vettel was fastest yesterday on a 1'20.087."

Ferrari on Twitter: "Both cars are without the blown rear wing: this configuration proved to be quicker in yesterday's sessions."

BBC commentator Jonathan Legard: "The Virgin team stayed at the track until 3am perfecting their car ahead of qualifying. It was a quick turnaround for the engineers to get back to work early on Saturday morning but things went awry when the team minibus had a flat tyre. Without a repair kit at hand, the engineers had to hail a taxi. So, it wasn't the best start to the day for Virgin - and let's hope it's not an omen for the rest of the day as Virgin feel they can get closer to their chief rivals Lotus this weekend."

1009: So Ferrari kicked off something of a sandstorm last week didn't they? The moment Felipe Massa allowed team-mate Fernando Alonso to pass him and go on to secure victory at the German Grand Prix, critics sharpened their tongues and friendlies collected their defence - and McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh is the latest man to enter the debate, saying team orders, currently banned in Formula 1, should in fact be legalised once again. "What teams do with their drivers should be for the teams to decide," said Whitmarsh at the Hungaroring. Thoughts?

1005: Sebastian Vettel tells his Red Bull team that the track is "not as good" as yesterday following overnight rain and the collection of dirt and concrete dust around Turns two and three, the German concluding that "it is not worth being the first cars out on track". Could be a wait before we see some proper times on the board, then.

1001: Final practice gets under way with Lotus's Heikki Kovalainen the first man out on the track, and Ferrari pair Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa also out and about early. One issue for the drivers to contend with in the early part of the session is a layer of concrete dust on the track following an earlier oil spill - nothing too grand to worry about, though.

BBC Sport's Sarah Holt in Budapest: "Third practice, as always, is a chance for teams to fine-tune their cars ahead of qualifying - and all the build-up for that begins on BBC One at 1210 BST. Mark Webber called the pacesetting Red Bull 'faultless' after Friday practice. Fernando Alonso reports the Ferrari feels more competitive without the F-duct and the team, like Red Bull, have canned the aerodynamic device. McLaren say they are struggling for downforce - the magic ingredient at the Hungaroring - but Lewis Hamilton reckons they can eke out a few more 10ths of a second if they can perfect their set-up. Both Renaults, who seem suited to high downforce tracks, were in the top seven after successfully fitting a new front wing and updated diffuser. There were plenty of headaches for Mercedes, who have been juggling their aerodynamic updates, in particular the rear wing and floor. Michael Schumacher holds the record for most wins here after taking the flag four times but says things are not looking 'particularly good' at the moment."

0955: We now have live pictures and sound, with David Croft and Anthony Davidson leading the chat, so get involved folks. Bright skies above the Hungaroring, but apparently showers are a possibility for later in the session and/or for qualifying. BBC weatherman Ian Fergusson says it is "worth keeping an eye for later on the next cluster of heavy showers and thunderstorms just easing into south Hungary (now visible on radar)." Could make things interesting, no?

BBC presenter Jake Humphrey: "Today - Quali live, we look back at Ferrari in Germany, Frank Williams, Nigel Mansell, news, flexi-front wings and lots besides...1210 (BST) BBC1."

Lotus team principal Tony Fernandes on Twitter: "We are now totally focused on our car for next year, meaning we'll have to squeeze the most out of the car for the rest of this season."

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Ooh man I love the cake

BBC Sport's Sarah Holt in Budapest: "Hello again. Overnight rain at the Hungaroring has given the track a good wash but it's drying up nicely under the sunny skies ahead of third practice.

The sunshine seems to have put everyone in good spirits; DC has even been merrily ironing his shirt at BBC HQ. Organisers of the Hungarian Grand Prix are celebrating its 25th anniversary on the F1 calendar and served up a super-sized iced chocolate cake to the drivers and F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone after Friday practice.

All the drivers were striding through the paddock with plates piled with huge slabs of the stuff. Sauber driver Kamui Kobayashi was desperate to get rid of his; saying 'If I eat it, it's four tenths in qualifying.'"

BBC commentator Jonathan Legard on Twitter: "Those hoping for wet qualifying set to be disappointed. Sun forecast for today and tomorrow. Red Bull clear Saturday favourites."

0937: Welcome, then, to final practice ahead of qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix. With the season entering the business end, Red Bull and Ferrari are the form teams, McLaren are just about hanging on to their leads in both the drivers' and constructors' championships, Mercedes and Renault are striving desperately to hang on to the leading three teams' coat-tails, and the rest are involved very much in a mid-table battle for respectability. Fair? Let's see what Super Saturday brings at Hungaroring in Budapest.

0935: So, did you hear about the doorman who got sacked for overcrowding his nightclub? Turns out he was a Ferrari F1 driver who kept letting people through...

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